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Ziggy587

USA
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Posted - 07/05/2010 :  06:08:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello. I have the GQ-4X and the following adapters:

http://www.sivava.com/T06_Adapter.html

http://www.sivava.com/T01_Adapter.html

http://www.mcumall.com/comersus/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4288

I use these adapters on the GQ-4X to program 29F032 TSOP40 chips. Recently I've had the need to work with some newer TSOP48 flash chips that are not on the supported list for the GQ-4X. I was wondering if support for these chips could be added. Some of the chips I wish to program are:

S29GL032N
http://mouser.com/ProductDetail/Spansion/S29GL032N90TFI010/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtI%252bQ06EiAoG11mZA9uhtKTMVQ0B8qQzNk%3d

S29GL064N
http://mouser.com/ProductDetail/Spansion/S29GL064N90TFI040/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtI%252bQ06EiAoG11mZA9uhtKTX8JsaBoogks%3d

Also, would I need to get a new adapter? Maybe the ADP-003 or ADP-042?
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ZLM

2945 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2010 :  12:34:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The GQ-4X support TSOP48 chips. So if your chip is in TSOP48 package, then it is possible to add it in the list with ADP-003 or ADP-042.
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Ziggy587

USA
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Posted - 07/07/2010 :  16:47:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK, sounds good. So how do we go about adding support for them? Would I have to send in the chips?

Thanks.
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Reply #3

ZLM

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Posted - 07/08/2010 :  11:29:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Try to add the chip youself, if it does not work, then send the testing chip to us. We will return it once finished testing. Let me know the exact part number you want to add, then I can post the chip profile line here.
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Ziggy587

USA
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Posted - 07/08/2010 :  13:44:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK, sounds good. I would like to use the following chips:

S29GL032N90TFI030

S29GL064N90TFI040
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ZLM

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Posted - 07/08/2010 :  15:13:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Add those two lines into devices.txt:

Name="S29GL032N90TFI030",ID="011A",Class="29LV320T",Category="FLASH",MFG="SPANSION",Adapter="ADP-003 TSOP48 8 BIT Mode",VCC="3.6V",Message="Set the adapter to 5V jumper position.";

Name="S29GL064N90TFI040",ID="0110",Class="29LV320T",Category="FLASH",MFG="SPANSION",CodeSize="8388608",Adapter="ADP-003 TSOP48 8 BIT Mode",VCC="3.6V",Message="Set the adapter to 5V jumper position.";
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Ziggy587

USA
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Posted - 07/10/2010 :  09:49:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK, thanks. I'll order the new chips and try that out.
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Ziggy587

USA
21 Posts

Posted - 07/17/2010 :  12:08:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ZLM

The GQ-4X support TSOP48 chips. So if your chip is in TSOP48 package, then it is possible to add it in the list with ADP-003 or ADP-042.




I'm a little confused about which adapter I should get. What is the difference between the ADP-003 and the ADP-042?
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Reply #8

ZLM

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Posted - 07/17/2010 :  19:38:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ADP-003 use 8 bit mode to read/write the chip. But the ADP-042 use 16 bit mode to read/write the chip.
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Ziggy587

USA
21 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2010 :  11:53:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So the two chips I want to burn are able to be used in 8 or 16 bit mode. If I want to use them in 8bit mode, I have to use the ADP-003 and vise versa?
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Reply #10

ZLM

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Posted - 07/21/2010 :  15:14:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes.
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Ziggy587

USA
21 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2010 :  06:09:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is the ADP-003 composed of the ADP-077 and ADP-072 adapters?
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ZLM

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Posted - 08/06/2010 :  15:27:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes.
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Reply #13

roglio

5 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2010 :  02:08:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, I'm trying to flash a S29GL064N90TFI04 (without the last zero) with my GQ-X3 and an ADP-042 16bit adapter.

The programmer recognize the flash memory after I've uncommented the configuration row found in the device.txt file:

Name="S29GL064N90TFI04",ID="017E10",Class="SST39VF1601",Category="FLASH",MFG="Spansion",CodeSize="8388608",Speed="5",Adapter="ADP-042 TSOP48 16 BIT Mode",Message="Set the adapter jumpers to VCC 3.6V and 29FX00 position.";

By the way it does not complete the writing operation: it fails with this error message "Address exceed range. Internal Error!".

Also verification fails but at a very high address: 0x400AA0

It seems that the flash was written correctly up to 0x400AA0.

Does you have any suggestion?

Thanks.
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Reply #14

ZLM

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Posted - 08/29/2010 :  17:29:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Address lines connected? A19,A20,A21

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roglio

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Posted - 08/30/2010 :  00:35:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, all correctly wired.

Now, I'm going to set the codesize to 4MB instead of 8MB and switch manually with a resistor lower and higher 4MB "banks".

Btw, in my opinion the issue is software related.

Thanks!
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roglio

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Posted - 08/30/2010 :  08:39:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, the first part of my experiment worked: setting CodeSize=4194304

Now, I'm going to pull up the A22 address in order to switch banks.
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Reply #17

roglio

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Posted - 08/30/2010 :  11:28:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pulling up A22 doesn't work.

Btw I found a better method: connect A21 to 3v pin on GQ-3X board.
In this way the tsop adapter itself will switch to the upper 4MB bank.

Tested and working.

This is a workaround in the meantime the issue will be fixed in the next revision of the GQ USB Programmer.

Just to recap: the issue is related to devices bigger than 32Mbit (4MB) and using a 16bit TSOP adapter. The GQ software when reach an address greather than 0x400AA0, fails with this error message: "Address exceed range. Internal Error!".

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Reply #18

ZLM

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Posted - 08/31/2010 :  07:51:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the update. It looks like a software problem, we will check this.
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roglio

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Posted - 08/31/2010 :  08:54:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi ZLM, I'm glad to have been useful.

Btw, the entire process 4MB+4MB took 6 hours!!! Why the hell it is so slow?
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Ziggy587

USA
21 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2010 :  11:13:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm trying to program the S29GL032N90TFI030 right now but it's not working.

When I do an ID check, it says 017E for Device ID (HEX) and says AMD for manufacture (not correct) and says Unknown Device for Type.

It fails to blank check or to write.
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Reply #21

ZLM

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Posted - 09/28/2010 :  20:50:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thait is correct ID: 017E.

The AMD and SPANSION are using same device MFG ID: 01

Select "S29GL032N90TFI030" from software.
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Ziggy587

USA
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Posted - 10/01/2010 :  12:56:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
But any time I try to do something I get the "ID check failed" error message. Is that OK?

Also, the software tells me to set the adapter to 5v mode, but it's a 3v chip. Shouldn't I be setting it to 3v and not 5v?
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Reply #23

ZLM

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Posted - 10/02/2010 :  07:45:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If your select S29GL032N90TFI030 from software and you should not get "ID check failed" .

Set adapter on 5V position. The 3V power is spplied from programmer.
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Ziggy587

USA
21 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2010 :  11:46:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I do indeed get the ID check failed message. However, I was able to successfully write and verify the chip. I even read it back and tested it, it programmed fine. But it still gives me the ID check failed message.
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Reply #25

ZLM

2945 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2010 :  08:25:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the device you selected is not the exact match the chip type.
As long as it can be verified after write, then it should be fine.
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